Charlie Kirk.

[rob]

Charlie Kirk’s views on Jews paint a contradictory picture. The conservative activist, who was killed on Wednesday, was a proponent of Christian nationalism, though he rejected the label, instead calling himself “a Christian and a nationalist.” He regularly criticized Jews and repeatedly trafficked in ideas like the Great Replacement Theory, an old antisemitic canard.

Charlie Kirk kept a ‘Jewish Sabbath.’ What did he mean by that?

The conservative influencer was due to publish a book on a tech-free Shabbat this December

forward.com

Seeker you are copying and pasting links, and using other people's idea? Are you human or AI?
You need to demonstrate you are human, otherwise we are beating around the bush?

Shalom

 

[rob]

I have since listened to more videos of CK and he does not speak of himself as a Christian Nationalist.

Nor does he speak to kids, by your remarks, I assume a kid is a non-adult, somebody less than 18 years old.
CK spoke to mostly college students ages ranging from 18 + . So you are making some emotional remarks in your replies,
why ? I have no idea? Also you quote website as your own words, proving you are not willing to make human comments on your own? Maybe you are not human to begin with? Prove to me you are human. Shalom

 

[Chief]

Since your a research scientist as I am, tell me what do you mean, and what does our Church mean by describing the HS as a "He"?

• John 16:17 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you."
• John 16:8 "And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:"
• John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and remind you of all that I said to you."
• John 16:13 "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come."

I don't take offense in holding objective conversations.

 

[rob]

• John 16:17 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you."
• John 16:8 "And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:"
• John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and remind you of all that I said to you."
• John 16:13 "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come."

I don't take offense in holding objective conversations.

Thanks for the reply Chief
One verse makes sense in it's grammar

• John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and remind you of all that I said to you."

Helper is masculine grammar case, Holy Spirit in Greek is also masculine grammar case, hence the Greek word "auto" is written as "he".

The same would apply to "Help mste" in Genesis

Ge 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

"Help meet" is masculine grammar case, and any pronouns would invoke a "he", but clearly the help mate given to Adam was a "her".

So is our Church only saying the Holy Spirit is a "he" in the sense of only case grammar, or are we lead to believe something more like "gender He"

Any comments please? - What does our church teach? grammar case "He" and or "gender He" ?

Shalom

 

[Chief]

Thanks for the reply Chief
One verse makes sense in it's grammar

• John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and remind you of all that I said to you."

Helper is masculine grammar case, Holy Spirit in Greek is also masculine grammar case, hence the Greek word "auto" is written as "he".

The same would apply to "Help mste" in Genesis

Ge 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

"Help meet" is masculine grammar case, and any pronouns would invoke a "he", but clearly the help mate given to Adam was a "her".

So is our Church only saying the Holy Spirit is a "he" in the sense of only case grammar, or are we lead to believe something more like "gender He"

Any comments please? - What does our church teach? grammar case "He" and or "gender He" ?

Shalom

Are you by any means trying to convert this into a gender agenda?

I think this conversation sits awkwardly in this thread. You can create a new thread if you'd like to discuss it further.

 

[rob]

Are you by any means trying to convert this into a gender agenda?

I think this conversation sits awkwardly in this thread. You can create a new thread if you'd like to discuss it further.

OK new thread. What does the average SDA mean by saying the HS is a "he" ?

 

[Matt]

Greetings Seeker, you have followed me here on Adventist Forum. You can always post on my other forum if you want?
You ask a question, that is really not about me? You read my reply on my other forum.

So it's over to you to make detailed reply? I have no idea what your saying or what you mean?

We are taught in the Scriptures not to judge any man, lest we ourselves by judged. I have listened to many of Charles Kirk videos, and he was quite a debater. But just because he spoke differently to how I would speak, does not mean he is not allowed to speak as he was gifted by God to speak. Please describe to me what you are saying?

Shalom

No question that Charlie Kirk was excellent a debating and he had a constitutional right to speak as he chose to. My issue is not that he spoke differently from me, but that he did make some very racist remarks at time. Because someone is gifted with a talent does not mean that it is used to glorify God. I don't think he was using God's gift in the right way when he made racist remarks.

 

[rob]

Matt what I liked about Charlie Kirk was he listened to people and spent time talking to them.
I would like that gift, but alas I do not have this? not sure? I was a teacher, I was a debater in my school days,
but Charlie had something deeper - He could reach others on their level.

SHalom